First, let me say that this message really has nothing to do with the actual photo that was deleted. I never saw it and so can not comment on that aspect of it one way or the other. I actually appreciate Gilo's posting this here (although I would have appreciated a link to the actual thread more). 99% of the time I only read and participate in the Photography forum (I find I stay out of trouble that way). I've been on this site before there was a Renderosity ... before the site was hosted here ... before there was even a hint of a non-Poser message forum on the original. And I still can't tell you, besides the obvious reasons, what will get an image deleted here with any certainty. I understand the moderator's position. This is someone elses house. The artists make it worth coming here, but you are a guest and the hosts make the rules. The mods are only doing their jobs and enforcing those rules and in so doing, making this a better place for everyone. But I think I can understand Gilo's frustration. The TOS starts off great with what I call "The Seven Commandments", but then drops in the ambiguous line of something being deemed unsuitable for the community. For the most part, most of us almost never know when an image has been removed and why (it's just gone before we see it) and because of that, in my opinion, we have never come to understand what the acceptable standards are here. No offense is meant here, but saying an image has crossed the line really doesn't help me to understand when I don't know what defines that line. What quality is it that these deleted images must have (beyond the big 7) that makes them cross the line? To have all of the admins deem it unsuitable says to me that there are definete standards that each image is held up to. Is it not possible for those standards to be articulated to the rest of us? I don't believe we need a all encompassing document that explains everything that will get an image removed, but something like a "read only" forum where you could just say things like "In Photo X, the depection of a nude female licking seductively on a lollipop was deemed by the staff to be inappropriate for this site .... etc." That way, I can better understand what is going on. I don't say these things just to jump into the fray. I will soon be getting into form and figure photography and hope to post some of those photos here. I really would like to have an idea where the lines are drawn. Hell, I got IM complaints from several people over my "pole dancer" images I posted. Finally, as for those who have no problem with Poser renders of women with 55DD breasts and 10-inch waists having problems with an actual naked human body .... shrug To each his/her own. I know which I prefer. -=>Donald