Well, steve IS in charge of PR, so that perhaps makes him a bit cautious in these matters. Especially given the communities' record of jumping on every tid-bit and adding another 50,000 questions for good measure. I don't blame him. Personally, I'm glad to see them taking their time and not being pressured into anything. 'Measure twice, cut once' as the saying goes. If anyone can challenge CL on their own turf, it's DAZ. And if they're going to do that, they need to get it right. Luckily, DAZ has huge credibility in the Poser community, so people will wait patiently, (especially after having seen the CL debacle). But I'm sure DAZ knows that credibility won't last if DAZ|Studio sucketh. They'll do it, and they'll do it good. That's my prediction for the day. mac