Does "poser" have a future, sure, the way a "hoover" or a "walkman" does. In the UK, almost everyone calls a vacuum cleaner a "hoover" doesn't matter if hoover don't make them all, doesn't matter if your "walkman" isn't a Sony either, it still plays music... I think that much like Linux, which behaves like UNIX in all but name, Daz Studio will work a lot like Poser, why? Because that's what people are used to. It'll be different enough to avoid "look & feel" litigation, but it will be poser in all but name, only faster, and perhaps, beter. It will work with all of Daz's/Zygote's stuff, probably most of the Free stuff too. But somehow I doubt you'll be able to tell which is which by looking at the output. I can tell P5 images more becuase of Judy, Don, and wiry hair than I can just from the image. I think, "poser" will survive, whether CL will be here to see it is another matter, I'd like to think that somebody would buy poser as a going concern, but given the current ecconomic climate I would put my hopes on anyone doing it in the next 2-3 years. later jb