Great advice so far...Rayraz you talked about something off the wall...I think a perfect example of that is Rochr's picture where he used the monkeys and protrayed them as being Corel pencil-necks...it was hilarous, not his usual stuff, and I haven't asked him, but I'm sure it sparked an idea or two here and there. I may have to think about that. Have a little FUN w/ Bryce instead of trying to make my next image better than my previous one...I think that's my biggest prob. MD