Is there any news yet as to wether the Mover 4 update will require Poser 5? I truly hope not:( I'm a Poser Propack user hanging on for Daz Studio, as while Poser 5 is still so buggy I refuse to upgrade.<<< I emailed e-on on Thursday, June 19th. No word back yet. I am with you on this, Alla. I truly hope that e-on has not hitched their high-quality product to a dung wagon. Take care, be well, keep flying. casamerica