A shameless plug indeed but since you're here, a question re: Legion. First off, great design, great textures, and they make beautiful pictures when rendered... but Man, are they data heavy! ? 640 meg of RAM and my PPP chokes everytime I try to render. Finally stopped the crashing by turning off all the bump maps, which He still looks great without. While I want to buy some of your other products I'm a bit hesitant given the problems I've had with Legion crashing Poser. Can you say anything re: what is the cause other than too many polygons? 640meg seems like a reasonable amount of RAM. G4 733 mHz, btw. thanks, and great looking work deci6el