Hey, SnowSultan. I cross-posted with you. You have a valid point, but I think the key phrase is 'non-contributing member of the community'. The lack of gallery is the obvious thing to jump on when these people post, but I'd hate to be considered a 'second-rate' member because I do my images with a camera and not with poser. sigh I keep meaning to do some wonderful renders, honest! But I never have time. LOL. mac