Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Nice to see the art of trolling isn't dead

guarie opened this issue on Jun 24, 2003 ยท 68 posts


FyreSpiryt posted Tue, 24 June 2003 at 6:17 PM

"No gallery, no freestuff, no artist page." You know what? I check out this stuff too when someone's a jerk. Check that last part. When someone's a jerk It's neither a necessary nor sufficient condition to me deciding "troll". These things, as well as length of membership, are simply indicators as to possible motive. If someone has been around for 2 days, has no contributions, and is posting "I could puke better art than this", then they're a flat-out troll and should be booted out from under our bridge. On the other hand, if someone has been around for a long time, or has freebies, or has a gallery, and says something like that, then they're still being a jerk. But at least they're being a jerk who's invested some time and effort into the community and isn't just swooping in to suck our creative energy in some twisted vampiric driveby. They've earned a benefit of a doubt and a chance to show that they're either having a bad day or they're under the delusion that constructive criticism involves statements like "I could puke better art than this." So those who like to grab at some umbrage like crazed parents grabbing at Harry Potter books in a Barnes and Noble clearance sale, those statements aren't directed at you and you know it. And if you didn't know it before, you do now. OK? OK. ::Deep breath:: Constructive criticism. Why the heck is this concept so difficult? You got the people who think that constructive criticism is all happy and sunshiney and flowery and completely blind to the most glaring of faults. Then you got the people who think it involves statements like "I could puke better art than this" and must be nasty and cruel and rip someone up one side and down the other and be completely blind to the most spectacular of good points. And they're BOTH wrong. You want to give constructive criticism, it has to be CONSTRUCTIVE. It has to help someone BUILD UPON what they have. In order to do that, you need to point out the flaw and offer suggestions to fix them -- after all, if the person KNEW how to fix them, they wouldn't be there in the first place, so just pointing them out without offering help isn't all that helpful. And at the same time, you have to let the person know what's RIGHT, what solid foundation they have that they can BUILD ON. So, for instance, if this Kevin dork was actually giving constructive criticism, it would be something like "She looks rather young to me. Maybe you could make the eyes smaller or the cheeks and nose less round to age her a bit more. On the other hand, the eye texture looks fantastic, and I like the realistic shading you put on her knees." Would that be so hard? ::'Nother deep breath:: OK, I'm done. ::steps off soapbox:: Next.