Just thinking if Corel were to create a patch that included some of the features that were supposed to be in Bryce4 to begin with and was never addressed with the 4.01 patch. If it only worked with the Corel version, how many people who own the Meta Bryce would pay the big dollar in order to get it? With Corel's cash flow problems I wonder if they mite be thinking this way in hopes for the quick buck? You can probably tell I have little trust of Corel even though I have some of their apps. Dave