Axe_Gaijin, Actually that was me. I had a bean burrito and... The last thing that DAZ needs is to hand out a product before it is ready considering the tempers that flare around here when software is less than... "usable" (never having actually having been involved in such rants... yeh right). Given that there will be a new learning curve, I for one would like to see it when DAZ believes it's ready to be seen. Visque