I didn't see the original post, either. I don't know why, as I check the Poser forum almost every day. Schlabber, I KNOW that your tutorial would be appreciated. I'm not sure I fully understand why you're asking for photos of people who look like Mike and Vicky, though. It seems to me that you already have your techniques down. I must be misunderstanding something, here. I'm sure that there is no lack of interest in learning from you. Perhaps the original message generated some confusion? Unfortunately this posting came across as an undeserved reprimand. I hope you know how appreciated you truly are.