It was my intention to open talks when I replied to Michelle's removal message externating my astonishment. But I didn't get anything in reply. You will maybe say you didn't get it? maybe.. I had the same intention when I then started the tread here and in good faith I wanted to show the image for peple to be able to discuss. I was accused of stirring up a stink for that. So now all of a sudden you want me to bring up the matter?? I think it has been brough up already, quite thoroughly! This is not a matter between me and Renderosity any more. This is something which concerns the community. At this stage what I want is the following: 1. An admission and an apology from Renderosity's management for having sent me an inadequate communication when the image was removed. 2. An apology (or a reasonable explanation) for having ignored my message sent in reply to Michelle's first message. 3. An apology for the fact that Michelle (I am paraphrasing now, because I don't feel like going through all the exchanges again) said clearly that she did not feel necessary to go in more detail in this issue and explain further. 4. An apology for having deliberately depicted me as a trouble maker who wants to go public to create havoc, while this was caused only by the fact that my 'private' message was not answered. I am not questioning the removal of the picture, I am questioning the process followed by the mods, the unclear rules, and the total lack of communication skills displayed by the mods throughout this unfortunate episode. I don't have anything more to say in private. Everything that needed to be said has ben said. You have more than enough elements to start a review of your censorship system, I don't need to add anything and I do believe this has been helpful because whatever you say I am sure that deep down you recognize that the system is in desperate need of a revamping. I do think the Management owes me an apology for those 4 issues I just mentioned. It is up to you whether you want to do it in public or in private. I personally don't mind either way as far as the other points, but for point 4, since Michelle publicly accused me of 'stirring up a stink', I would like it to be publicly retreated. And I would suggest that the Management of Renderosity spend a few thousand dollars in a communication skills training for its mods. They desperately need it! I am a personnel management specialist in my 'real' life and I can tell you that any company who has communicators this bad in key areas of public relations is bound to run into troubles sooner or later.