First, no more name calling, I am NOT IN THE MOOD for it! Understood? GOOD! Next order of business, Maijer was banned not for the attitude of "hell it was posted to the Internet, so screw it, I can repost it", it didn't matter if it was Poses, geometeries or a picture, that attitude WILL NOT be tolerated here! As for the poses, that is what I do, that is what I am known for, think about the 2 hours you saved by using one of our poses when next you do your image DarkEden, even if all you do is use my pose or someone elses as a starting point, think about how long it would take you to pose that character from the default pose every time you do a picture. Telling me and others who work hard on creating poses without seam breaks and body parts imbedded into other body parts take time, which also helps to cut down on your Post Render time. You don't think their worth it, then don't use them. And granted you have the right to say whatever you want, but don't think that you can shield yourself with that BS here, because like you, everyone else has the right to that right just as you do. I have talked with Maijer and he is no longer banned on the site, it was a situation that needed to be addressed and taken care before it got out of hand... I did that and made sure that those whose poses were re-distributed were apologized to. Problem handled and dealt with. So back to your regularly scheduled rendering folks... Jack