X-perimentalman opened this issue on Jun 25, 2003 ยท 114 posts
gilo25 posted Thu, 26 June 2003 at 10:58 PM
Your message doesn't explain anything. The issue is: I am a disgruntled customer, end user, whatever you want to call me (yes we are customers, we are not being made a favour by being allowed to post here, it is the other way around). The initial removal message which informed me why the image was pulled did say why it was pulled but the problem is that a correspondnce in the TOS is nowhere to be found. The messaqge is inadequate because it doesn't say 'the image was pulled based on the TOS which says...'; as a matter of fact teh message can't possibly say that because there is no correlation between the current TOS and the reasons indicated in the message for the image to be pulled. Your interpretation of the TOS is just an interpretation, because if you read the TOS, it does not contain adequate elements that would tell the 'poster' that the image he/she is about to post is unsuitable. The TOS talks about sexual acts etc, but not about touching of breasts. Moreover, there are a lot of inconsistency because the site is full of sexual images which has no more right than the one at issue to reamain, based on the TOS. Let's not forget also about the Chair of Juda which you will agree is not a feature odf a family oriented site. We are therefore asking for a revision of the TOS, and if you were receptive enough you would have already agreed to it. That's all. Here is the message I sent in reply to teh message I was sent when the image was pulled out: 20/06/03 10:08 AM To: michellea@renderosity.com cc: Subject: Re: Your image 'Sultry' was removed from our galleries. Dear Michelle, I am truly astonsihed by this decision. As you know my nudes are not sexually aggressive, as all the comments testify. If someone saw it and found it 'unsuitable', it means that he/she did not have the access to nudity turned off. So it means that he/she is not disturbed by nudity. If he/she actually forwarded a complaint for an image like this, which has no explicit sexual content (the nipple is NOT being touched, there is just an allusive gesture), I think this person has a problem with his/her own percption of what is sexually disturbing. I don't think this should influence the decision of Renderosity, which in any case doesn't cause any particular problem to me, as I will simply switch to other sites. But it will cause a problem to Renderosity itself as for the pruderie of one viewer, hundreds of viewers will be disappointed not to see a certain type of images any more, which certainly gathered the highest number of views per day. But it seems that Rendersosity has made its choice. I would still like to know where it says that the image at issue is not suitable, while all the rest of images is. All the best G' I never got a reply to this. You are now saying you didn't get it. Fine, but this doesn't allow you to insinuate that it was my intention to stir up a stink. I therefore still insist on an apology from Renderosity as requested in points 1 to 4 in post 9 above. Also, since the situation is getting more serious, I would like to invite Renderosity to choose one person who will be the official represenatative of the site. I will not reply to messages of the umpteen mod who is chipping in without me knowing whether he is representing the site or him/herself.