It seems like the site has improved with the rules which currently are in place, those rules do place more of a burden on the admin/mods to monitor and or lock threads but I think the result is more professional in the long run. Has there always been a debate about where the "adult" versus "family" rating on images should be set...YES. Even the Supreme Court of the United States admits that pornographic is subjectively defined, even the "no redeeming social value" is subjective...but as was further noted by a Justice "I know it when I see it". Now I don't know about everyone else but if one has children it is a bit easier to find a subjective definition of family orientated. Renderotica has been set up to bridge the gap so to speak in terms of a subjective standard, there you can post what is not acceptable under the TOS here. So I am always amazed at the insistance that an image be posted here...what's the point? Why must a "family orientated" site accept sexually explicit images or be under attack?...the censorship idea is a red herring...the site rules are clear on the point of who is going to be subjective about the content of an image....what part of NO needs to be explained the N or the O? The image can be posted at any other site that accepts that type of artwork, the artwork can be re-worked to fit within the site rules...again the TOS are the equivalent of notice. For one I am all for debate, but this is a site where the majority of artists work hard not to be lumped in with "porn" and although some fantasy art is risque by a pure "family" rating, it remains subjectively within the rules of this site....