No, sorry, I may be mistaken, but I think I'm right: there's virtually no limit to the reflections, it's the value you set on "Maximum Ray Depth" in the Render Options. 6 was the limit until Bryce4, now, if you increase that value, your traced ray could go on and on and on... I'm pretty sure of this, but someone correct me if I'm wrong. Sorry, I don't have the patience to do a test with MRD at 48something ;-) S.