Im not sure how to take the 'older folk' coment. if your older than me, i would think you've learned better. but... who am i to judge? i am what you make me. i am my words. take them as you would, any other words. I'm sorry the those 'manual' words 'meant nothing' to you and 'mine' seem to mean so much. If you learn from experience, why don't you get some from reading the manual? Nobody said it was easy. But you would be surprised what can be learned. Maybe next time you'll think about picking it up when something happens or you 'want' to 'learn' something 'new' or have an 'old' question answered and avoid putting yourself out and getting 'desperate' about something as trivial as this. I've enjoyed the conversation though. ;)