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Subject: Nice abuse of power Spike

X-perimentalman opened this issue on Jun 25, 2003 ยท 114 posts


PunkClown posted Fri, 27 June 2003 at 9:04 PM

illusions, in regard to your statement:
"Few of us have seen the image...and if you haven't seen it, you can't judge it's suitability. The purpose of this thread was to make suggestions concerning the process by which an image is removed, a members options when an image has been removed, and the adequacy of the TOS to define what is suitable."
In another thread regarding this issue I tried to explain some points to consider when dealing with "borderline" images. Here is the gist of what I said:

The gestalt of any given image is not simply the end product of one individual compositional element such as a specific body part, but is the sum of all the elements within the image. In figure studies, this includes (but is not limited to) the stance of the body, the facial expression, the way the limbs are held, the implied emotions and intent. A good photographer (in the example of photography) can impart these feelings from the way they compose, light and position their subject matter. These elements cannot always be broken down into specific rules or delineations, but need to be taken into consideration when viewed as a whole, in context...which is why we have to occasionally have to discuss & vote on some images. This is not about adequacy of the TOS...no set of written definitions or rules can cover every conceivable circumstance. Some of these things can not by their very nature of needing to be assessed in a wholistic context, be clearly defined by words (ie a specific TOS wording)

Illusions, also regarding your statement: "Many of us gave you ideas for handling image removal. Neither you nor any of the other Mods/Admins have acknowledge any of them or commented on them!"

I also replied in the other thread I mentioned earlier:
"gilo25 Some aspects of your email suggestions do have merit. I truly hope that both Renderosity and yourself can learn from these exchanges."

At no time did I receive any response from gilo25 that he had read, aknowledged or in anyway understood what I was communicating, or that I was even making a genuine and sincere effort to explain things. This is a pattern he seems to have followed with the other mods and Spike as well.

For someone accusing Renderosity and it's administration and moderators of poor communication skills I find this very strange. To communicate effectively one must also listen for any effective exchange. It seems to me that Renderosity have been listening and answering all along, hence the multitude of replies. gilo25 however does not seem to have shown Renderosity and it's representatives the same courtesy. He refuses to accept the answers and explanations given to him. He has been insulting, rude and then he demands apologies from Renderosity.

If I insulted, and continually haraunged other members (yes mods are members too), even to the point of accusing them of "lying through their teeth" with NO evidence...and comparing them to military juntas and dictators, If I ignored everything else that was explained to me because I wasn't told exactly what I wanted to hear, do you think others would regard my behaviour as reasonable?
In reference to the title of the thread originally coined by illusions, this is a "nice" abuse of freedom of speech and tolerance within this community by gilo25 I would say
P.S. Brendan, I too am sometimes troubled by the prejudices and inconsistencies displayed by some members when dealing with and voicing their greivances regarding this site...it seems to me these things surely work both ways? As you said, I'm not complaining, I too, am musing... ;-)> PunkClown (2D Graphics Forum Moderator)