I haven't tried camWithNoName. One of the pose files in that zip sets pointAtTarget to UNIVERSE, so it works with some things. I doubt pickActor would work, because UNIVERSE isn't an option in the selection menu. Everything else in the selection menu (except cameras) works with pickActor. I'm also using pickActor statements inside INJ files instead of defaultPick, because pickActor actually shifts focus. I'm currently trying to find a way to delete a figure with a pose file. Your take on the new valueOps stuff looks about like it to me. heh... Yeah, VK warned us about the divide by zero, depending on how you use it.