Donald, Thanks for the compliments, although to be quite honest, I don't class myself as an 'artist'. I'm just a working joe. A photographer has to be like a plumber or a joiner, in a way. You need a certain look and a photographer who won't f**k up? OK, I can do that. I turn up, do the job, don't get drunk or come on to the models, and deliver results. That's it really. As an assistant, I worked with all sorts of primadonnas who thought they were 'artists'. Most of them don't last too long. Maybe this sounds brutal to anyone who is a hobbyist and wants to turn pro, but it's pretty much the way it is. I guess everyone is an artist in their own way, me as much as anyone else, but in the end, all that matters is getting 6 or 8 nice shots at the end of the day, and knowing that you won't be embarrassed when you see your name next to them. Funny you should mention Kayce. I forgot that shoot was on the site. I said in a post above that I'd done white studio backgrounds in courtyards. That was one of them. A big cloth set up in the courtyard + daylight. Everyone who sees it assumes it was done in the studio. She was my room-mate at the time and a hot working model. In fact, we had to do the shoot on a sunday, since she was always busy. That's only part of the shoot. We did a ton of stuff. I wonder where she is now? She played great piano and sang. Went back to the states to form a band and we lost touch. Oh well... I second everything kropot says above. I didn't touch on the actual shoot, since that's a whole other subject, but yes... be ready, work fast, use music and don't dork around. Maybe someone would want to hear how I do that part of it too. Although there aren't any hard and fast rules, there are some useful things to know. mac