I used it for mane and tail on a horse, needs to be explored more, it has possible uses. This in reply to who3d. something I'm surprised to have noticed no examples of - transmapped Poser 5 "dynamic cloth" (which ought to offer, in theory, something of a halfway house between transmapped P4 hair and strand-based P5 hair). I keep meaning to try some transmapped cloth hair and never get around to it :( Cheers, Cliff Bowman