Thanks again. I did check out the tutorials link above, as well as 3dcafe and have downloaded a few objects, but most of those don't tell you they're not v.4 compatible until well after you've tried to import them. sigh Just some of the problems I've encountered. I did a search for the book aforementioned, and it's pretty expensive. Not a complaint, just an observation. Is there a magazine dedicated specifically to Bryce, like Photoshop User? I will have a closer look. Is this forum specifically for generalised Bryce topics, or is it also the place where you can seek help regarding specific functions of the program? I've also found a couple of Usenet groups dedicated to Bryce, but saw the Renderosity link and was curious, so I've not fully absorbed everything the Usenet groups have to offer in the way of advice. Thanks, guys, much appreciated. Opus