Thanks for the correction, dodger. I thought Python opened its mouth, spoke out the questions, and the Poser environment responded in kind. Nice. That was rather pointlessly rude to inject into a technical discussion, wasn't it? I am unhappy with the seemingly arbitrary facetiousness. What I was indicating was that Python had access to the same data structure that poser was using, rather than querying Poser and getting a response, mouth or no. There's a difference in the way things work that's actually rather integral. Put it this way, if Python asked Poser, Poser could lie under some circumstances. To my knowleddge, it can't. It's the metaphorical difference between asking someone to read you the newspaper and reading it over their shoulder. one of my first products was going to be a 'partial pose' set JICC comes with partial SET poses. I thought about the partial poses, but wasn't sure what the demand would be.