jumpstartme2, it wasn;t your post I was defending him, and by extension me from, it was punkclown's. In answer to the narrow view, to try and put my meaning into perspective, it's not neccessarily about this particular picture. I have never said anywhere in either of these two threads, that this particular picture should still be in the gallery. This picture was just a catalyst, these arguments I have been trying to make about the process could just as easily apply to the next Mr. Fluffers type picture, which aren;t the least bit erotic. it's why I have said, the erotic nature of this particular picture is a red herring to the arguments of the removal process. and no the hypocrite wasn;t aimed at you, just boomeranging off of me back to whence it originated from.