Of course no written set of rules, can cover every set of situations that can arise, and since you've gone back and read my posts, you'll see that in both threads, I have said on more than one occasion, that the TOS does have and needs a broad range of discretionary powers. You'll also note I have stated repeatedly that in this particular instance of the removal of the picture that IF the standard of removal for this picture was the TOS then, job well done to the Mods. You should also note that I have repeatedly expressed a concern over what the actual standard this picture was held to. Since it was posted, by a MOD in the first thread, the standard and criterion this picture was held to was "is this picture suitable for a family oriented site?" My question, and concern regarding this criterion, which has gone unanswered, for two threads now, is simple, is this the criterion all pictures here are judged by? or was this criterion created for this SPECIFIC image? If the answer is the first, then it should be added to the TOS, or the posting guidelines, if the second, why, and why not just the TOS, which is the defining rules, and more than adequate for the situation. None of this, or very little was addressed in post #67, or any other post in these threads. As for defending a moderator from what you call libel, I am not in a postion to do so. As far as I can tell that argument is over whether gilo25 attempted to contact said mod, via IM or email, he says yes, she says no. Since I have no insider information, or contact with either of them, I have no idea if he did or didn't, and no way to prove any opinion I may hold on the subject anyway. So since I do not rush to defend your ally, when I can have no possible idea if your ally is right or wrong, that makes me a hypocrite or at least cynical and opportunistic. Nice touch. As to the insults, all I see from you, is the same I see from the last thread, a pretty little attempt by a moderator to make an end run around the TOS and belittle and insult members who dared question either the reasons, or process of this images removal. That is in fact what got the last thread locked, and started this one, creating this second mess. Something that I am sure is about to happen to this one.