Hi... Fyre... Streuth! Of course... Poser was having to search for the ground texture file and locking up. There are some nasties in the Poser default libraries too... I found that ALL of the 'characters - male' figures in the Poser 4 setup have an incorrect geometry reference. The blhipnogen.obj call (in an alternateGeom entry for the hip) has an incorrect path. When PBooost 1.4 is released, you'll be able to fix these. mglant... Lol! My site might not be too much help as I still need to write all the instructions and tutorials for 1.4!! That's quite a big task which I am NOT looking forward to! H:)