I don't know Jim.....what i do is cut two thighs in it then use pwizard, that then puts in 2 ghost shins but doesn't weld the thighs to the hip so i add the welds to the cr2 by hand, can't do ghost thighs coz pwizard puts ghost buttocks in instead....Nerd do you have a tutorial on doing this coz i really need to get my head around this kind of thing, i love pwizard and would never part with it but i need to understand what its doing rather than letting it do it ;o).....Steve