Eric, I like this guy!! You folks at Zygote are doing a bang up job on him so far. I notice that a few people mentioned the torso/leg length thing, so I won't add to that. I don't care what ANY of the MEN around here say, I LIKE his face. I can see some really excellent possibilities for new characters already, just from facial morphing. As for the muscleman look or the genitalia, neither of those are an issue for me since I seldom work with nudes. My biggest concern is going to be clothing this fellow. When you're ready to do the clothing pak for him (I'm going to presume that he, like Victoria, won't fit into the stock p4 clothes), let us know because I have a lot of suggestions for that. :) Kate