illusions, this is beyond that.. i dont think ANYONE in this entire thread has blamed clint for inaction or the merchant for selling the product here. its just turned to a discussion about nudity, pornography, and the way things are going these days. i think its staying pretty civil, actually, and no personal insults have been made, merely some cynical comments that are commonplace in ANY discussion, especially on the internet. and "cant cater to a general, 'family' atmosphere AND allow smut, the two do not coexist" was not an 'argument', but a statement. i never said rosity was trying to do both - theyre not. was simply a statement about the way some things just cant intermix by definition.