Thank you all for the great comments...I also have to agree abot the lens flares..they do tend to over power the render..and I'm not too thrilled about the fade ot on the edges..perhaps I;ll re-do and resubmit him..the breeches and the chest pate are props I'm working on..I have a ways to go beofre thier ready to share..I'll post them in the free goodies area for you all:) again thanks:) VR