"i WAS fuming mad at the time, because i spent a lot of time on my banner ads and particularly liked that one." I'd characterise that as a tantrum... umm.. this was like 4 months ago, lol. 'at the time' was when they were pulled. "Prime example...you said that in response to JDexter, who was offended by your language. You dismissed their feelings in favor of your actions. " no, i was making a point. you cant equate using the word fck to posting macro money-shots. you can turn on prime-time tv and hear the word fck a dozen times per show.. but you wont be seeing many zoom close-ups of spread labia now will you? its like comparing a jaywalker to osama bin laden because they both 'broke the law'. "You don't seem to be particularly concerned about offending anyone else. " i constantly apologize in advance with the foreknowledge that people will take what i say the wrong way, and constantly attempt to explain and point out that im not attacking anyone in particular only the issue that i have strong feelings about. "and more concerned about how you come across...you might be taken a bit more seriously by more people." you hardly speak for the entire forum. a lot of people here agree with me.. and as for my 'style', id rather be considered up-front and blunt than pussy-foot around a topic and speak in word-games and a roundabout manner. if i dont like something, im going to come out and say it. if i disagree with someone, and it doesnt matter who that someone is, im going to voice that disagreement. interesting that throughout this thread many more people have been flinging insults and provocation at me than i at them, yet im not getting my panties in a bunch over it. "Now I know you can't "hear my tone" so let me assure you none of this is meant to be sarcastic or disrespectful...I'm just sitting here having a friendly chat with you." same here. your posts do come off as pointing an ___load of fingers at me though, but im used to it so enjoy yourself. as for the tide of smut.. every once in awhile people attempt to slip stuff in - wether intentionally or inadvertantly.. and sometimes it gets by the administration/moderators. then the NEXT time someone does it theyll whine 'but you let so and so do it earlier, so you have to let me do it too' and usually the administration backs down and lets them get away with it. at this point, were seriously beating one very fat, very dead horse here. the issue that started the thread is resolved and currently neither 'side' is presenting any valid points other than pissing back and forth about irrelevant crap, and trying to divert what i originally thought was a pretty clearcut topic but now is a potential flamefest. im going to go make a pizza :) poofs