Happy B-Day Sambucus...what's your choice brew for your special day? Taking Drac's tip and starting a new paragraph I agree with the comments above, and I'd have to thank Ornlu for taking some of the sting away from me...heheh...I knew I'd wake up this morning to some back and forth comments. One reason why I posted it is because I wanted to see what others thought about the issue, so that maybe I can be able to shine a new light on the thought. One thing I didn't want to do was come across as being a whiny little baby, and with the comments posted, it seems you all took my words the correct way which is good. And I am glad you posted your responses because now I do feel better about it. I can see how the Poser group would be harsh, I've checked out their forum trying to pick up a few pointers. new paragraph In the future, I can say from this thread I'll see Poser art in a new way. I just didn't think they used Bryce as much. But that they see us as friendly folk, that's a pretty good tag to have, and I'm glad for that. new paragraph Ornlu...thank you for posting your opinions, too. The best thing I felt you said was how you like Poser as an accessory to Bryce. I think that's the point I was trying to get across. If art is used in a genuine form to add to a Bryce scene...I'll enjoy that more than the 'poorly exported figure w/ a quick 5 minute background'. But then I began to think that those that make the poorly exported figure w/ a quick 5 minute background pictures are beginners trying to learn and gather opinion. (This is the thought I've gotten after reading this thread.) My first Bryce pictures weren't great either, but hearing the positive opinion kept me ticking. I'm hoping that's the case with these other folks. If anything, I think I'll try to show some more support in the future for Poser/Bryce artists that are beginners (once I learn some Poser so I can offer better, more valid opinion.) new paragraph Anyhow, hack at this message if you want. But just to refresh, I'm thankful for all the posts, positive ones at that. I've come away with a different view, a better one I think. Thanks to those that took the time to post. Regards, MD PS...Ornlu, how DO they get on all the magazine covers? ;) hehehe PPS...Drac, thanks for the tip, sometimes when I'm tired I tend to ramble on and on...hehe...