I was in need of some different characters for an animation I'm working on, so I copied the P5 figures and clothing into PPP. I import the animations into Cinema to render. The figures work great in PPP and don't have as much overhead as Mike and the Vics. I'm working with 8 to 12 figures so the overhead does count. I might just have to start modeling some clothes for these folks when I get this animation done. Ed