I like V3 male too... its all in how you use the morphs, I think. I think you can ugly him up really good and make him pretty masculine, if you get creative with using the V3 head morphs (and not just the male ones) He does have a tendancy to look like a young man but that's not a bad thing... there was a gap before with the 18-25 yo age group, which V3 male fills rather well.