Bijou sez: "Aiko can expand your male figures!" Damned right! Aiko expands my male figure every time I make a ren- err, forget I said that. Now, as for this LDS business... my big, fat disclaimer: I'm not, and I won't. They'd have to scrub the local ward-house down with gallons of holy water and bleach if a heathen like me ever set foot in the place. OTOH, the most I ever see from them, even here in Mormon Central, is the occasional sticky note on my door inviting me to "Enrichment Night" or somesuch, though quite frankly everyone else on the block gets those, too. I got mormons for neighbors, mormons all up and down the school's management hierarcy (my own immediate supervisor is a local bishop if memory serves), my brother-in-law is really devout about it, and a solid 99% of my students spend some portion of their extracurricular day in training to someday do their stint as a missionary. OTOH, as the only SOB on the block who doesn't get 10% of his paycheck direct-deposited into the local LDS ward's tithing fund (yep, they do that if you ask for it), I can say for certain that I've seen very little in the way of discrimination, and none at my job or in any government-related thing I have to do (like petition for property tax abatement ferinstance - something half the neighborhood had to do last year thanks to an overzealous county appraiser). The only thing I cannot do here because of the prevailing morality (not religion, morality) is purchase porn DVD's online... but neither can anyone else in Utah - though Wyoming, Nevada, or Idaho are but a short 1.5 hours' drive away from my house, where I can get real beer (and not the 3.2% horse's urine the locals like to call "beer"), fireworks (if I ever decided that blowing 300 bucks on non firearms-related explosive crap was a halfway-intelligent thing), or lottery tickets (err, should I ever feel the urge to toss money up a bird's arse in the vain hope of somehow becoming a zillionaire)... But in all honesty, there are a lot of Baptists and Catholics around here who are just fine with these laws, hence my labelling of morality and not religion as the big factor. Hell, I'm from Arkansas, where purchasing alcohol was a question of which county you lived in, and what day of the week it was if the county was "wet". Out there, you can forget about such goodies as porn, fireworks, or any sort of lottery ( you had to get those in Oklahoma from my neck of the woods.) If you're gay, no worries - the LDS church condemns lots of folks to Hell for doing much worse stuff, starting with the barley-pop in my refrigerator. Sodomy just wasn't all that big on 'The Official List Of Bad Things' last time I checked, and no one seems to be making a big deal of it here, outside of the usual suspects on the local AM radio shows. Besides, they'll just baptize you after you die anyway, and you'll go to Heaven nonetheless according to what I understand of the dogma (at least that's how I think it works... not 100% sure on that one. I'll check in w/ my brother-in-law next time I ring him up.) Like Anton said - DAZ ain't typical of Utah, and certainly isn't typical of the LDS church's dogma the last time I checked... they have a pretty big habit of "live and let live" in that cramped little hovel down in Draper. /P