Compiler - I don't pretend to know what or why the crew on M3 are or are not working on it... but Anton is among the best in Poserland, and I believe that Dan Farr does know that. And yes, it is another planet out here in some aspects, but seeing the sun set from Antelope Island out on the Great Salt Lake, watching it rise in Bryce Canyon, or walking among the clouds in Mirror Lake are just a small fraction of the wonderful things I can do here (not to mention hunting the North American Elk - walking the backcountry in late autumn is almost a religious experience in itself.) :) IMHO, (haven't seen M3 yet, but I'll see if I can't finagle a peek) as a tall and slim guy, the V3 male is IMO the best ticket for normal guys, though I do use a heavily modified Mike2 as my little clown dude over at PoserPros. /P