Blackhearted opened this issue on Jul 03, 2003 ยท 186 posts
lmckenzie posted Sun, 06 July 2003 at 8:24 PM
"i dont think that i should have to filter out ALL nudity (3/4 of rosity, lol) in order to not view money shots." Thus the option for multi-level filtering which I assume you agree with since you suggested it first. If you're at work, especially the way the workplace is these days, I think filtering all nudity is probably the safest and sanest thing to do. I'd really be worried that my idea of tasteful nudity would inevitably run afoul of the boss' or someone else's idea of taste and so save my naked Vicky viewing for home. I doubt the "It was only a naked woman, not her vagina," defense is going to stand up in any sexual harassment action. While I doubt the multi-filter will be implemented, I don't like your solution either. It has the same problem of deciding what to put where that filtering does with one key difference. With filters things go in general or adult. You seem to be saying (correct me if I'm wrong), that you want to be able to see nudity, but only the nudity you want to see - so its general or it's banned. I think we actually agree on what we'd like to see implemented but in the absence of that, I can't agree with banning images even if they meet the TOS, based on personal taste. And I don't agree with the "everyone in every place on the planet is going to be offended by X," argument as a reason either. First, it's not true. He sent me a copy of the image and not only was I not offended or shocked by it, I was actually even more surprised that it became so controversial, especially considering that it was a product illustration one had to intentionally go look at. There is a good reason the TOS are pretty specific about what is not acceptable and that is to avoid people being censored based on someone's personal taste or views on morality. If the site really believes in freedom of expression, then that means an image should have a place here, even if 10,000 members oppose it and only one is in favor of it. Having been a victim of overzealous censorship yourself, I would hope that you agree with that. I can sympathise with not wanting to go through an extra hassle. I'm sure that a lot of people won't be happy to have to go ask the librarian to turn off the filters either. Putting an filter on/off selector in one of those dropdowns would be nice. In the end though, I think the filter, however it's implemented is the best solution for protecting everyone's rights. And yes, being able to look at vaginas before buying one is a right, it falls under the pursuit of happiness :-)
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