Couldn't agree more Veritas, i have a Doris Day movie I have to track down as i have memorys of some wonderful outfits, it must have stuck well into my head coz this was well before i'd heard of poser...Genny your still a young slip of a lass :o).......you'll get them soon Dizzie..Oh BTW did you want a sports motorbike?...Thanks Mickmca ;o).....and last but not least, Kblade i have no idea it won't download i'll try again later or can you post a pic ;o)......Steve