I haven't had the problem you discribed exactly. What happens to me with Camera MAT poses is this. They usually apply the first time. But as soon as I render, if I try to apply any more Camera MAts, they won't work any more. Since I'm using Poser 5 (as are you), I just move the MATs to the pose library and change the extention of the cm2s to pz2s. I think I have the extentions right. (If you want to do this, just look at what the other ones are called in your pose library to confirm.) Once I put them in the pose library and change the extention, they work fine every time I apply them. Kevin