Yes, there was a thread in the AoI group at SourceForge by the person I mentioned about using it with Poser. The author, Peter Eastman who confirmed that it always uses triangles and it would be difficult to get around that at this stage. The new version has a 'display as quads' option but I imagine that's just display. I don't know enough about the geometry stuff to discuss it intelligently though. Does Posette have some 4+ polygons as well? At any rate, it's always a matter of taste. I could never grok how people were doing stuff in Wingz. Anim8tor looks more understandable but I could never get some of the simple operations (like selecting an area to deform) working. After the same amount of time, I was able to accomplish more in Max 3 than either of those :-) With AoI, I can at least do some simple things and it feels fairly intuitive. Since I'm more interested in making props than in morphing it doesn't have the drawback for me. Of course, I've just barely scratched the surface as there is indeed a whole lot of functionality there. I'm playing with PoseRay/POVRay now but I really should experiment with the AoI renderer using a Poser figure to see what it looks like. Basically, I've concluded that I don't have the Zen for modeling. The spatial/3D side of my brain is definitely out to lunch. The easiest program I ever used is Simply 3D which is pretty limited though it has some features like animated morphing, animated textures and adjustable UV mapping that are beyond Poser 4. I've often wished that Micrografix had kept developing it. With a little more power, it would have been a great tool. I haven't seen much for the Mac which is surprising considering it's artistic base but I suppose it mainly 2D use. Not a whole lot on Linux either for free at least but that may change. With its Unix roots, I know there must be a ton of 3D stufff that could be ported pretty easily I would think. BTW I just read that Adobe is releasing the new version of Premier for Windows only. Apparently competion from Apple with their own versions of applications like Final Cut Pro is not going down well with some of their third party developers.

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