Poser meshes are mainly four sided, hence the problem with AOI, they may have some 3 sided too but since most if not all Poser/Daz figures were modelled in Lightwave even these are unlikely. I know what you mean about Wings style of modelling (usually called sub-dividion or box modelling) I had difficulties with it at first but with a bit of practise it clicked, I love it know! :o) I didn't really give AOI much of a chance to be honest, I was mainly looking for a renderer to use with Wings. I didn't particularly like the results so I didn't bother much more with it. I never tried the animation options, actually I've never tried animation in any package. Something for the future! Maybe with Daz Studio? I'd heard about IE being discontinued for Mac but I think it's being discontinued as a seperate app entirely and will be built into Windows. Safari will do me along with the current version of Internet Explorer! Cheers - Baz