Thalaxis: I think you better read the facts. There was nothing bogus about these demos. All the PC backers always claim foul when someone out does them... This is a very debated subject and IBM and Apple, as well as the third party that did the benchmarks proved that nothing was hobbled. They used the Open source GCC compiler accross the board. Sorry but you are misinformed. The coming months will prove these specs. Adobe, and other companies have already gone on record stating that the G5 is the fastest computer to run their applications. This doesent have to do with their benchmarks but rather Adobe and others own testing. Does this mean that the G5 will run everything faster? No, some applications are written specifically for a perticular processor. But talking to a few developers that have had these systems for a bit revealed that they are a leap forward in personal computing power. "A good rule of thumb: take the G5's clock speed, at 1000 MHz, and look at the performance of a P4 at that speed. That's about what you should expect on average from the G5... and that's hardly something to scoff at." This is a statement I would expect from a PC user that doesn't have a clue about the technical aspects of the G5. Talk to IBM's engineering staff about the 970 (G5) tell them your rule of thumb and they will laugh at you. The G5 runs on a 1Ghz bus while the fastest p4 runs on an 800mhz bus. The bus is always the bottleneck and IBM/AMD/Apple have eliminated that. Besides that the 970 processor architechture is true 64 bit and is a RISC chip, unlike the P4 that is a cisc and 32bit. Even though the clock speed is lower the chip is faster. Do the research before you make statements that are fasle...