First things first. Gregsin, Ill be keeping my fingers crossed for you, buddy. Look forward to your first comment on a pic of mine that you can see clearly. Ang, youve given me a clue to how I can get more comments on my pics. Use the Heineken cans. Thats the second pic Ive used them in and the last time they got more (negative) comment than the rest of the pic. LOL. Its not that bad if you chill it enough so you cant taste it. As to foxes in the city, they are certainly in London, including centrally. I live on the outskirts and a vixen often keeps me awake at night. Have you heard those things? Take your point about the buildings but I wanted them to fade into the background. And everyone is qualified to comment.