What always amused me was that a casino could walk you for "card counting" yup, doing the same thing at a casino as you would when playing cards at home will get you into deep trouble. What I always wondered was, how do they prove it...? Though I suspect what's complicated about all this is the money and that fact that those with it don't want to part with it, for fear if they do it's an admission which could cost them dearly in a a court of law later... Admit nothing, do only what you need to do, let the judge sort it out. Legaly expediant, but possibly costly over time. later jb