...CL in financial trouble eh... ...Tisk-tisk, and they had such potential too. Anyway, the more interesting tidbit of information I have acquired here is I can get poser 4 to run on my OS-X. Sweet..! I read about it someplace else, on some other post but I didn't believe it for I thought they meant they were running the OS-9 environment which (I hate) caused me a lot of trouble and convinced me to convert all my software over to OS-X (I betcha mac planned it that way all the time, LOL) except Poser which then and now isn't native but, if it will run on OS-X regardless and do so stable enough for me to enjoy working with it still, I might just keep the "old dog" in my virtual toolbox. Cool!!! I can't wait to get home and see if I can make it work now. Though I still say CL dropped the ball big time when it comes to us Mac users, and that was before I realized how close they are to forfeiting the game entirely.