Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Steffyz's thread - new link

ladynimue opened this issue on Jul 08, 2003 ยท 16 posts


mickmca posted Thu, 10 July 2003 at 11:38 AM

R'osity is not a mall. I don't give money to the vendor when I want to buy something; I give it to R'osity. By putting themselves in the cash flow, they become complicit in the transaction. That's not law, it's ethics, a concept legal minds find untidy. The consumer issues are: 1. The robbed vendor takes the position that use of the stolen merchandise constitutes violation of copyright. That means I can't use what I bought. In effect, when I get home, the box is empty. 2. If I have my pocket picked in a mall or get sold a counterfeit Rolex (or an empty box), I will assume that the mall managers are not selecting for business ethics when they rent space, or monitoring the ethics of their tenants, and I will hesitate to shop at any of the stores. 3. If the mall's response to complaints about the businesses that rent space is "We just rent the space, it's not our problem," I will never shop there again, nor anywhere else that the mall company manages. I have nearly a hundred items on my wishlist. I have not made a purchase at R'osity since I learned about this problem. Not because I'm afraid of getting burned, but because I don't want to give "differently ethicked" mall managers $7 when I make a $14 purchase. If I want something badly enough and it is not a R'osity exclusive, I buy it elsewhere. Vendors who sell exclusively, in spite of my admiration for their work, I don't patronize. A TOS that defines code theft and the penalties for being caught doesn't require a law degree (contrary to what the lawyers might vote). We are talking about congruencies on the level of a zTran setting that matches down to 0.0001, and textures with regions of identical color bits. No, the testers can't be expected to catch the thieves in advance. But when they are caught, and reported, the penalty should be as simple and unambiguous as the crime. I'm not a latrine lawyer; I'm tempted to add, since you've decided to personalize things, that the phrase is, for the most part, redundant. I really don't care about the legal issues. If the legal issues were simple black and white, lawyers would be selling pencils. I care that honest people are being hurt and R'osity is more interested in its legal CYA than in stopping the abuse. It's not a legal issue; it's a consumer issue. I was in a shop recently when the owner was abusing one of his employees in front of customers, humiliating her for making a mistake. Does he have the legal right? Ask him. Better yet, ask two lawyers and offer to pay them to argue. Will I ever be back to his store? Do you have to ask?