Just checking back - I got it to work sort of. still a little buggy - I think the feet are oriented in the wrong direction and the thighs run into the shins- oh well that will be easy to fix. I ran across a few questions along the way: 1) Should I check weld when importing? 2) In the joint editor, on center, the hips red cross is almost to the knees shouldn't that be in the center of the hip? 3)should the thighs upper joint parameters(red) touch the hip at the top of the thigh - or should it remain centered at the top of the thigh? Anyrate I'll keep working on it and old "Luke Stickwaker" will look better next time. Thanks again for helping me out, - TJ