The market place is there so we CAN see EXACTLY what we are buying. We work dilligently to create a product. Work even harder to make sure we properly represent it so that it actually sells. And then... It get's slammed for properly representing itself? this was soooo not the point of this thread. we are not sayin thats wrong or anything at fault with that or him or anyone who makes genital props and such and blah blah blah. NOT. its about the ethics, for lack of better locution, of products like this being here. some feel a line should be drawn. we are NOT sayin you are wrong so do NOT tell us we are. gabe was just expressin a concern, a community concern, not pointing fingers, not starting a witch hunt, not singling out anyone, not starting a war, not saying theres anythign wrong with the products or people who make them or why they are made, just that some of us feel that they might not be appropriate for the image of rosity, the avg rosity member, or future member or whatever...we are not criticizing you for your opinion, so you should not be doing so to his. not everyone is as liberal as some of you are. you need to remember that. and remember this is a community where the majority of people here may not think genital props or images acceptable at this particular site. its nothign personal. stop twisting things around and let this stupid thread die.