yeah 3 to 5 grand.. thats how expensive computers here are in my place... thankfully its not in dollars (or american dollars) its in Philippine Peso which is $1.00=50 pesos... so if that where in dollars it would be mmmmmm an hundred dollars... sorry for the "grand" thingee... im just soooooo frustrated i dont know what im posting... oh just to let you guys know, computers here cost at about 40 thousand pesos, roughly 800 dollars... a big paint in the neck thats why im so damn sad!