Baha Vile that is where you are wrong. That's not poser... It's a 3ds model from somewhere. And Ang, perhaps you could use some ideas from my attempts to simulate cloth in bryce here http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=344280&Start=1&Artist=Ornlu&ByArtist=Yes It has a link to the forum topic for the pic included. Plus, I have 299 views on that =P help me break the big 300.